Interview with Mallam Nasir El-Rufai on Boko Haram and State of the Nation


This post is an excerpt from the February 25th edition of the Nigeria Village Square (NVS) NOW WHAT weekly series of which I am a panel member. It was originally posted HERE. Enjoy!!


Now What Podcasts : The NOW WHAT podcasts Series are initiated by a desire to chart a way forward for Nigeria following the January occupy protests, Boko Haram and other security challenges and the seeming slide to anarchy in Nigeria. Each week, members of the NVS forum will exchange ideas in a round-table and will also invite high profile guests to offer ideas

On Saturday February 25, 2012, Mallam Nasir El-Rufai was our guest. Mallam Nasir El-Rufai spoke on Boko Haram, Sovereign National Conference, Security, and so much more in a very frank manner.

The following is transcript of the first part of the interview, with focus on Transformational Leadership, his support for Buhari and How to deal with the Boko Haram menace.


Mallam Nasir El-Rufai (Part 1)


THE NASIR EL-RUFAI INTERVIEW

Introduction: Good-day everyone. My name is Anwuli Emenanjo in Toronto, Canada and I’ll like to welcome you to another episode of the  Nigerian Village Square podcast series entitled ‘’Now What’’.

This week, we are pleased to have Mallam Nasir El Rufai as our special guest . Many of us are familiar with Mallam Rufai following his articles, facebook comments and tweets so no formal introduction  is really required but for the benefit of those that don’t know him, Mallam Rufai was a former Director General of The Bureau of Public Enterprises, the head privatisation agency in Nigeria and also the former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja from 2003 to 2007.  He also served as an adviser in the transition government of General Abdulsalami Abubakar.

Our co-hosts for today’s show are Zainab Usman from the UK and Ajibola Robinson from West Virgina U.S.A.

We also have some of our forum members also known as villagers that have called in. we would be taking questions from them in the course of the show and also at the end in the Q&A segments with the audience.

Without further ado, I will hand over the Baton to Zainab to begin with the series of questions we have for you today…Zainab….

NEED FOR TRANSFORMATIONAL LEADERSHIP

NVS: Hello everyone, its our pleasure to have you here with us today. I will be handling questions on transformational leadership and on Boko Haram. My first question is on transformational leadership.

In a recent article, I stated that the core north is in terminal decline due to lack of transformational leadership, economic decline and retardation of the region due to dependence on oil revenues, and a cultural mindset that is contributing to our retrogression in many aspects. What’s your take on these?

El-Rufai: Zainab I found your article very inspiring and interesting. I agree with views you expressed in the article. I think the north has not beendoing very well in many ways, and the key issue, like most of Nigeria is the challenge of transformational leadership. I agree with you, I think I went out of my way to share your article because I think every Nigerian, indeed every northerner needs to read it. So I agree with you 100%.

The question is what do we do about it? How do we create a system that throws up new generation of leaders that are transformational rather than transactional? This is the challenge.

Do I have any answer? I don’t, but I think that those of us that care about Nigeria and the north ought to put our heads together to continue that search, and I am in opposition to do more in that search. But there are no silver bullets, no quick answers. I agree with everything you wrote in your article.
NVS: thank you for your answer to that question, and this actually leads to my second question – As a speaker at a TEDx event in December 2009, you also stated there is a failure of leadership in Africa. SO it appears its across the continebt. Could you please elaborate on that?
El-Rufai: Yes yes, you know your article focused on the North and it’s good, but I think the leadership deficit is throughout the country and the continent. Some countries are better than the others — Bostwana, Mauritius are better, some parts of Southern Africa, but generally we have problem of leadership in Africa and it’s something that we all must put our heads together and try to find solutions to. In Nigeria’s case, its very evident where we are now and where we are going. It clearly shows that we need transformational leadership. Clearly!

NVS: You just stated that you don’t really have any answers to the leadership issue, but is there anything you think ………………………..
El-Rufai: In Nigeria, the country I’m most familiar with, I think the key to getting the right leaders in Nigeria is to have elections that matter. Now, part of the reason we have the type of leaders we have and the way they behave is because they know that we do not need to elect them, they will elect themselves, they will rig elections, they will bribe judges to remain in power. So they don’t care what you think, they don’t care what I think, they don’t care to deliver on any promise or to perform. At every election cycle all they need to have is a load of money with which to bribe officials, bribe results and challenge you to go to the tribunal.
So the real thing that we should focus on in Nigeria, I think, is to get accountable elections. We must get elections that matters. Once we have elections that matters, it will take time, but over a few election cycles we would throw out the bad leaders and hopefully elect the good ones. That is what I think is the long term solution. Do we have any short term solutions? I don’t think so. We have these people, they are entrenched and they will do everything to protect their system of governance, and unless we all stand up and ensure that we have better elections, I think we are on our way to perdition.

 

NVS: This also leads to my next question. You talk about elections as the key to solving our leadership problem. In the last election you had the opportunity to support either Nuhu Ribadu or Muhammadu Buhari and you supported the latter. A lot of peiople will like to know ..given that you have been an advocate of transformational leadership, some would argue that supporting a man who has been in various forms of power for over 30 year contradicts this stance. Could you shed more light on this?

El-Rufai: I decided to support General Muhammadu Buhari because I think that even though he has been around for the past 30 years, in the times he had to lead he was transformational … when he was Head of State between 1984 and 85, he moved Nigeria in the direction that I think if it has not been terminated we would have been a different country. So he was transformational as head of state, and in his other assignments as minister of petroleum under Obasanjo, and head of the Petroleum Trust Fund his leadership style was transformational rather than transactional. This is part of the reasons why I supported him, but on the whole, I looked at all the candidates out there, including my brother Nuhu Ribadu and I felt that Buhari was just more qualified to change the direction of the country at that point in time, and that’s what I did. I don’t think being around makes one less transformational, or being new makes one more transformational than others. I think you have to look at the track record of performance, and that’s what I did.

HOW TO SOLVE THE BOKO HARAM PROBLEM


NVS: Thank you. Now I’m moving on to the next section which is on Boko Haram. Obviously a lot has been happening in Nigeria. What is your take on the current state of insecurity in Nigeria, especially in the North?

El-Rufai: Well, it is very sad. I think the situation and the general security situation in Nigeria is terrible. And it all has to do in the short term, with the incompetence of the government to deliver on security. But I think the problem is something that has been in the North for a while: joblessness, poverty and the fact that the 19 northern governors have not been investing enough in human development.

This has built up for a long time, but in the last 12 years I think we have had the most clear case of lost opportunity. Because the Northern state governors have received a lot of money but they have not invested enough in education, health care, and the environment that will create opportunity and work for our people, and I think that some of these outbursts of violence are related to this lack of opportunity.

The problem is more pronounced in the North obviously, but it’s all over the country. You have area boys in the South West; you have kidnappers and militants in the South East and the South South respectively. All these arise due to deficit of opportunities and hope, and I think that unless as a country and as a region in the North we address this issue, they are going to manifest in many ways. You cannot have security when you have hopelessness in the society, and this is the challenge that we face as a country and in the Northern region.

NVS: Alright, thank you. My next question is that there are lots of concerns in the South that Northern Hausa/Fulani leaders are not doing enough to speak out and condemn the activities of Boko Haram, what would you say to that?

El-Rufai: I think that is an unfair assessment. I don’t think people in the South are listening. I think every notable leader in the North, from the Sultan of Sokoto, the governors to many leading politicians, have condemned the activity of Boko Haram and have shown that what they are doing has nothing to do with Islam. But beyond that what is anyone expected to do? It is not the condemnation of Boko Haram that will solve the problem. It is government using it’s resources and intelligence to solve the problem.

Part of the reason you have all these issues is because we have a government that chooses to blame rather than solve problems. I think it is unfair to say that Northern leaders have not condemned Boko Haram, they have, but they didn’t get the media attention, it is only when Boko Haram strikes that get media attention. And in that way I think some of the distorted media attention is actually encouraging the activities of Boko Haram, rather than the other way round. I think it’s unfair, which Northern leader has not condemn Boko Haram? I don’t know, they should name names, but that is not the main issue.

The main issue for the government to solve the problem, because security is in the hands of the government, it’s not in the hands of Northern political leaders or traditional rulers or anyone.

 

NVS: Thank you for that very interesting point. What short and long-term solutions do you think can be implemented to solve the security question in Nigeria?

El-Rufai: Well, you know, I think in the short term government should do what it should do in the area of security, get better intelligence, be more proactive to prevent attacks rather than issue dry statements after the deed has happened. Intelligence is the key. How do you get good intelligence? By ensuring that you win the hearts and minds of the communities in which this terrorists and other criminals operate, there’s no other way of getting intelligence.

You do not get intelligence by asking Soldiers to go and kill everyone in the community. You get the intelligence by winning the hearts and minds of people in the community and I think in that regard, the Nigerian military has messed up and its the reason why we are where we are, the government has messed up by unleashing the military on communities that are innocent, and killing more people than even Boko Haram has been killing. But they are using Boko Haram here as an example, but it’s the problem all over the country, whether it’s the kidnappers, the militants and so on and so forth.

So that is why in the short term I think we need better intelligence. The government needs to re-think it’s strategy because the strategy of over militarization has not worked. That is one.

Secondly, the government must work with community leaders to try to get to the root of this problem, and the government should not think it has all the answers, it should be willing to listen to the communities to try to solve this problem. In June last year the Borno elders came and saw president Jonathan and advised him to withdraw the military and work with them to try to get to the root of the Boko Haram problem. He didn’t even consider the advise, he rejected it outright and said he prefers the military option. Well, we are now in February, within last year, 9 months have passed, things have gone from bad to worse because the government has not listened to the community leaders. The community leaders have some solution, they have some answers and they should be listened to.

That’s in the short term, now in the medium term and long term, the root of the terrorism; the root of hopelessness must be addressed. So the government should create the opportunity for restoring hope in people by more investments in education, in health care and employment opportunities. That will definitely solve the problem in the long term. The current level of poverty and inequality in our society are the roots of these problems and unless they are attacked in a sustained long term manner we will continue to have this kind of outbreak of violence in many different ways. These I think are the short and medium term approaches to the problem.

 

NVS: You have actually answered the next question I was going to ask you, about the recent meeting of the Vice President and the 19 northern governors where they agree or resolved to go back to the “old traditional ways of gathering information and intelligence” in orther to defeat Boko Haram. I guess you have already answered that. It’s something you actually recommended right now.

El-Rufai: When you’re trying to gather intelligence, you have to rely on traditional institutions, formal institutions, beer parlours etc and this is the way it should be done. And thats what security agencies should be used for and not for …..

But having said that,  I think the 19 northern governors ought to understand that in many ways they are the root of this problem. Because they are not investing in education and health care and employment opportunities for the people that’s why some of these problems are breaking  out and thinking they could use the traditional rulers to get intelligence is scratching the surface, they should do the right thing. They should deliver good governance, that is the way some of these problems could be solved, just as an addition.

 

NVS: Ok, thank you for that. So with the growing tensions in the North between Muslims and non-Muslims, what is your take on the perception that  some sections of the core North, have refused to allow non-Muslims and non-Northerners to exist in peace? How can this issue be resolved?

El-Rufai: I think that the contention that there is tension between Muslims and non-Muslims in the North, I think is exaggerated. Yes there are tensions in some states of the North, but during the fuel subsidy protest, we saw videos of Muslims protecting Christians in their churches and Christians protecting Muslims as they were praying. So I think that to some extent the fuel subsidy protest has bridged the gap between Islam and Christianity in many parts of the North particularly in Kano, Kaduna and some of the hot spots.  So I’m not sure that is the big issue on the table right now.

But having said that, even assuming that there are tensions, I do not agree that non-Muslims are not being allowed to live in peace. You know in every society you have deviance, you have strange groups that do all kinds of things that are wrong, but that does not mean that the majority of the people share that view. Book Haram is a deviant group, they are doing things that most Muslims do not agree with.

Northerners, whether Muslims, do not agree with their doctrine, but they are doing it anyway. But to take the conduct of Boko Haram and label all Northerners, all Muslims as Boko Haram I think is unfortunate which we must stop as a country. I do not think that this issues are beyond resolution, and I think that Muslims and Christians, especially in the North and in fact all over Nigeria are living in peace. But you have a few cases of deviance and those that want to cause division., and it is up to all of us as Christians and Msulims, as enjoined by the Bible and the Qur’an, to come together and say no to all of these..

NVS: So, how do you react to the news that CBN donated N100 million to the Kano State Government for onward delivery to victims of the recent Boko-Haram bomb attacks in the state? A lot of people want to know why he chose Kano and not other states where there have been victims of Boko Haram as well. Who is the money meant for and why the lopsided donation? What’s your own opinion?

El-Rufai: Well, do you know I don’t have a clear opinion on this because I have not spoken to the governor of the Central Bank to know the rationale for their decision. But I know that the Central Bank does many such donations as part of their corporate social responsibility.

They have donated hundreds of millions to universities to set up doctoral chairs and they do not explain why they choose one university over another. They have not donated to Ahmadu Bello which is the university I and Sanusi Lamido attended, but they have donated to University of Nigeria Nnsuka, for instance.

So the motive behind their decision to donate to Kano instead of another, I’m sure, Sanusi will be able to explain because I know he is one of the most logical human beings I have come upon, and I’ve known him since we were both 15 years of age. So I think Sanusi will have a rational explanation for it, and if you look at the Central Bank website and see the partern of their social responsibilities and donations, perhaps something will strike you as they pick and choose where they donate. But I have not spoken to Lamido Sanusi tio understand the reason behind it.

NVS: Thank you. The next question is that Some of your tweets seem to suggest that  govt should dialogue with Boko Haram despite its belligerent stance towards non-Muslims and its increasingly deadly attacks.  How would you respond to suggestions from some quarters for government not to engage in any form of dialogue with Boko Haram?”

El-Rufai: I think that those that are saying that you should not dialogue with Boko Haram are not being rational, honestly because today, America has been in Afghanistan for 11 years. They haven’t kicked out the Taliban, they are still fighting the Taliban, but they are willing to discuss with the Taliban.

America went to Iraq, spent 1 trillion dollars, left without solving all the problems. You cannot defeat an insurgency with military force alone. You should combine military force with political discussion. Those that are saying we should not dialogue with Boko Haram don’t get it. Look around you, you will see that the countries that say you should not negotiate with terrorists are also talking to what they called terrorists.

The British fought with the IRA for many many years, but they opened channels of communication to talk to them. This is the only way to defeat insurgency.

So I think, based on the situation that we are as a country, the government should find channels to communicate and talk to Boko Haram and try to find out what is their real grudge, why are they doing what they are doing, and see which of their demands can be accommodated, because we all know what happened.

The police killed their leader extra-judicially, so they have a foundation for them to feel aggrieved. And since those that killed their leader have not been brought to justice, Boko Haram has a reason to feel aggrieved against the government. So the government should talk to them and find out if there’s away this issue can be settled without further loss of lives and property.

I support the need to discuss with them, I do not think those that are saying don’t discuss with Boko Haram, crush them, know what they are talking about because they have not looked around the world to see how similar situations are being handled. And I refer them to Afghanistan, to the UK as well as Iraq.

 

NVS: My last question on this section is that Lamido Sanusi recently linked Boko Haram activities with revenue allocation and derivation, that is the ‘’inequitable’’ distribution of revenue with the oil producing states in the Niger Delta getting 13 percent was responsible for Boko Haram activites. Do you agree with this view?

El-Rufai: That is not what Sanusi said exactly. I tried to follow up this story very carefully because I sit on the Thisday editorial board. It was Thisday that first published the story that Sanusi linked derivation to Boko Haram and they took the story from the Financial Times and when I read the original story in the Financial Times, I didn’t find Sanusi saying that. What Lamido Sanusi said which is from an economics prism- anyone that studies political economy  know its true that  inequality and poverty lead to violence in any society and the reason why societies have social safety nets is because they want to avoid that. It is an established fact in political economy all over the world. When you have inequality of income and poverty, you have violence. This is what Sanusi said to the Financial Times but many Nigerian newspapers took this and recast this to say that he has linked Boko Haram to derivation.

Having said that, I believe as I indicated that when you have serious income inequality you have all these problems. So they should be addressed. I don’t think that derivation alone is the problem. I think the problem of Nigeria is bad governance. Because even though the Niger delta states are getting 3, 4 times the average Nigerian…..per capita in income, I think apart from a couple of them, they are not using their resources well. So you have the same kind of hopelessness that led to militancy, and the kind of hopelessness that may have encouraged Boko Haram and other insurgents all over the country, also in the Niger delta.

My concern really, when the money being given out under the amnesty program gets finished, these ex-militants will become new militants because they are used to getting free cash and where would they find jobs that would give them as much money? So it’s something that is quite tricky, it’s something that we need to think through how to manage. But I believe that a fairer more equitable distribution of income in any society, addressing the poverty issue and giving people hope is the solution to the problem of violence and terrorism and so no and so forth, in the long term.

 

NVS: We are now mid-way in the podcast and we will be taking some audience questions but before I move on to that, I would like for you to go back to talk more or elaborate more about dialogue with Boko Haram.  Goodluck Jonathan has already reached out and tried to talk to Boko Haram when he appeared on BBC and Al-Jazeera and their answer to his request for dialogue was that they are not interested in anything; that that they want him to become a Muslim, you know…actually dialogue was not a success. Boko Haram was already violent and the Government has tried to talk to them. So, when you talk in terms of Dialogue. What would you like to see happen that is not happening?


El-Rufai – 
Look. First, I think you are wrong. Boko Haram did not become violent until the June 2009 operations. The truth of that matter was that it was the Borno State Government that killed their followers when they went to bury them after being involved in a motorcycle accident and that’s a fact. That was the beginning of Boko Haram going violent. They were not violent before, they were a fringe group, they were doing their own thing, everyone ignored them until the Government attacked them and then unleashed the military on them in June 2009  when their leaders were extra-judicially killed. So it is not true that they were violent to start with – as far as I know.

Secondly, I feel that at this point in time there’s complete breakdown of trust between the communities in which Boko Haram operates, the Boko Haram leadership and the government, and for any meaningful dialogue to begin, I think you need to get community leaders that Boko Haram will trust to act as interlocutors and intermediaries between the Government and them. I think if they see people, if they see credible leaders that can assure them that the Government will fulfil its own promises to them. I think dialogue is possible. I honestly think so.

I do not think that the stories about Boko Haram saying that they want everyone to become a Muslim are completely true. They know that in the North, there’s nothing like 100% sharia in every state of the North. Even in the States where Sharia was applied, it was not applied to non-Muslim. This is how we have always lived and they know that.

They may make that as a demand just by way of brinkmanship, but I believe we are at point where if you get credible leaders, and I can mention some names – if you can get people like Gene Yakubu Gowon, Shettimu Ali Monguno, Gen Mohammadu Shuwa, General Muhammadu Buhari –  people like that that everyone respects and they know they are not on the payroll of any government to lead any effort to negotiate with BH and the government, I think it is possible to open a channel and that’s what I recommend very strongly.
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END OF PART 1 – TO BE CONTINUED


END OF PART 1 – TO BE CONTINUED

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27 thoughts on “Interview with Mallam Nasir El-Rufai on Boko Haram and State of the Nation

  1. The interview is quit thought-provoking. But as far as i am concerned not only does the government need to strive towards getting the community leaders to serve as interlocutors for successful dialogue with these VICTIMS (rather than villains) of Nigeria’s IRRESPONSIVE/IRRESPONSIBLE leadership who from time lacks any initiative for human capacity utilization development, but also all Nigerians, especially non-muslims must shun bigotry (insinuation that muslims support activities of boko haram as demonstrated in Jos recently during the reprisal attacks to avenge the cocin church bombing) so as to create a fresh air of encouragement for the communities and the incorruptible and honest leaders from the north (led by MUHAMMADU BUHARI and others) to intercede on behalf of the federal government. But i must use this opportunity to tell Nigerians that our RELIGIOUS AND TRIBAL PLURALITY are not our problems, but we have allowed these differences to ba manipulated by our corrupt leaders (including our elders) for our own disadvantage as demonstrated in the last PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. This is because i can’t count the number of insults i received from my christian parents just because i took a brilliant electoral decision of voting for the most PRINCIPLED POLITICIAN of contemporary Nigeria- MUHAMMADU BUHARI; one wonder why some Nigerians would have any reason to vote for someone who does not have any political history of administrative integrity and who absconded from 3 presidential debates, and yet, those that voted this man expect him to perform magic of transformation with the same cabal of questionable characters destroying this country since 1999.

    • That was a very indepth and thoughtful analysis of our current situation. But in as much as I hate to,I have been compelled to believed that many Nigerians are completely preoccupied by regional bigotry and prejudices of sort. We seems to have allowed our obstinate instincts to overrule our logical and patriotic wheels. Worst still,our so called leaders and elders are doing nothing rather than compromising the efforts of many a few. The tendencies that existed as differences between us has been exploited negatively to the advantages of the selfish elites and disadvantages of the hopeless Nigerians.Until we have an institution that will produce accountable leaders as well as establish a trusted relationship between the rulers and the ruled,Nigeria as a nation may continue to be doomed in an imagination of light that may never come to the fore.

  2. I think Nasir El-Rufai is in denial about the degree of tension that exists between Christians and Muslims in Northern Nigeria. Jos and Kaduna used to be very peaceful towns until a potent mix of ethnicity and religion disrupted the harmony.

  3. Honestly, this interview is a blast, I realy enjoyed it, at least its a strong message to the government. I cant wait to see the part two, ride on Mallam El-Rufai.

  4. It is shameful that Northern governors have done very little to develop their states and El-Rufai is right to point that out, but if we really want to bring development to the grassroots, there are a few uncomfortable facts we need to grapple with.

    1. How many states in Northern Nigeria are economically viable entities? The present answer is none. Kano has the potential to be an economically viable entity in the medium term (and possibly Kaduna), but that is about it. Isn’t it time to critically re-examine the internal political architecture (i.e will pooling resources together as a larger entity be better for the North?).

    2. A North that depends on the petroleum resources from the South will ultimately depend on the South for political and economic leadership. There is no way around this, economic power leads to political power, it may not be apparent today, but it will definitely happen in the future (although some people may argue that it is already happening). Threats of war and violence will be dismissed by the South because they know the North has no feet to stand on, so compromises will have to be made.

    The North needs to create an economy.

    3. Neither the US, the international aid agencies or the Nigerian Federal Government has the capacity to solve the educational crisis in the North – the North is a disaster zone educationally. A more profitable course of action for genuine Northern leaders like El-Rufai and Buhari over the next four years is to aggressively champion the cause of education in North.

    4. Factors that influence investment decisions include security, infrastructure, human capital and market size (which is dependent on purchasing power). One of the major reasons why the South is a more attractive destination for investors is because of its larger market size. The South is a more attractive market because Southerners are better educated and in general have higher potential and have the ability to perform more complex and higher paying tasks.

    The North made a mistake in the seventies of investing massively in physical infrastructure like the Kaduna Refinery, PAN Kaduna, DICON etc., without a corresponding long-term investment in human capital. At the end of the day, the major beneficiaries of these industries were not Northerners (largely in low-paying jobs), but technical professionals from the South.

    Please invest in your people.

    5. The Middle-Belt is disengaging from the North so the days of claiming that “we have the largest population in Nigeria” will not always be technically correct. The North has to wake up to this reality. As we speak, the Idoma are renewing their ties with the Igbo (both groups are heavily Catholic and have cultural links). The Igala are already inviting the Igbo to set up shop in Kogi State. Kwara is eventually going to be the seventh “Yoruba” state. Half of Kogi State already identifies with the Yoruba and the people of Southern Kaduna, Plateau, Benue and Taraba are already drifting away from the core North.

    The unpleasant truth is that future Northern leaders will require a great deal of tact and diplomacy, qualities that the best leaders the North has today (people like El-Rufai, Buhari, Sanusi and even Nuhu Ribadu) so desperately lack. Babangida for all his faults, has the diplomatic skills to deal with the rapidly changing landscape of the former Northern region.

    The North needs leaders with the intelligence of El-Rufai, the integrity of Ribadu, the discipline of Buhari and the diplomacy and tact of Babangida. A tall order!

  5. It is time we stopped this disinformation about who attacked who between Boko Haram and Govt. The first clash was when the BH members refused to wear helmets and when confronted by police, they became rowdy. One thing led to another and some of them were shot. They then went and planned a revenge attack, which started on Sunday, July 28th, 2009, when they attacked prisons, police stations and wait for it, churches!! This is the true record. Did we then expect govt forces to sit by n watch them? I’m not saying they did right in killing their leader, esp extra-judicially. But the impression being created that the leader was killed unprovoked is wrong.

    • Are u saying that it was justified for the police to shot unarmed civilians in whatever circumstances just because they refused to wear helmets. That in itself can be termed as the initial extra-judicial killing that probably led to all the problems. I believe the Police should have done their duty by arresting the offenders of ” non helmet wearers” as that offence is very little to warrant the taking of life in what ever guise. We should tell ourselves the truth and retrace our steps to know where the mistakes were made and it is only then that we can make the corrections that will be required to solve the problems. Let us all allow peace to reign as we have no other land to run to.

  6. Kudus zee!4 usherin my role model:EL-RUFA’I to your studio..ideed mal.nasir is a person as well as an ideology propagatin d idea of karl marx on ‘state’ & ‘capitalism’over d xplo tation of d workin class.
    Political education is of grt vital 4 nigerian b4 election cose d wud nt sale there vote.wit rgrd 2 security chalges..there are some factor dat need to b adress by these admstration
    1.poverty
    2.inequalities amge 9jarians.
    3.unemployment
    4.hunger & starvation
    5.ilitracy
    Not spendin unnecesary money on security sector

  7. This is indeed an interesting interview with El-Rufa’i. But in the first part of interview he failed to scientifically tell us how the problems of Nigeria will be solved. He only criritised the conduct of elections as the root cause of our predicament. Although elections are the institutional technologies of democracy; but competetive election is not democracy. Because it create violence and violence is not part of democracy, democracy never fight one another. In a nut-shell one can argue that election is not the key factor of our problem rather one of the problem that is dwarffing our democratic practice. I have had thought that El-Rufa’i will say the key issue of Nigeria’s problem is the stupit economy, bad governance, mismanagement and traping Nigeria’s resources by western world and creating conflics among Nigerians by our politicians.The truth of the matter is we must get detrmine and patriotic leadership that should and could plan (strategize) an economic blue print that will boost both goverment and individual economy. It has been asserted by experts that no nation can stablely run successful democratic governance; if nation’s citizen are getting below $2700= (#450,000.00) as annual income. How many Nigerians are able to get such huge amount yearly especially in our rural areas? Other issues to be looked into;population control, land lock (especially in the north) and concentrate on boosting transportaions;rail, airports, road constructions and possible linking (rail and roads) the northern Nigeria with mediterenian sea via Niger and Libya and above all mass literacy (education). And I agree with El-Rufa’i on shift of generational leadership especially in northern part of Nigeria. May God save Nigeria.

  8. Truly, El-rufai has aptly captured it, the cause of Nigeria’s problem is corruption, it isonly when is well addressed that we may start talking of making any remarkable head way. One other truth is the investment of of nothern Nigerian governors in human capital development of its people. But disagree with him on the inequitable sharing of national income as it affects the north adversely that may be the cause of the protracted under development of the north. Firstly, their should be a viable evidence of what is presently received on ground to prove the need for more. Moreover, internally generated revenue is a great means of getting higher income. But IGR can most easily be generated when there is a level of improvement in both human, capital and infrastructure development in the area.

  9. Nice piece. It’l enlightn more to southerners by what el-rufai tryng to unravel about the issues pattaing north.

  10. The north should wake up from her slumber. The era of scrambling for power by some few self centred politicians under the regional guise are over.

    • May almighty Allah blessu my dear mallam, more of this intelligent enlightenment for our dear country to survive

  11. What an interesting piece! Mallam El Rufai has always been a straight forward being with honesty of purpose. With people like him, this country will occupy a pride of place in the comity of nations. We need detribalised men like him and Ribadu.

  12. mall Nasir. you spoke the truth,had it been the northern governors invest in edu,health and other sectors. we would’nt have been in a state of desfair

  13. I am 13 and write the scripts for the school’s plays, write stories and film mini documentaries. I want to become a creative writer for WWE (writing the storylines). I know I will have to work for other TV productions before joining the WWE corporate. How can I improve my creative writing skills so that I can be successful in my career?.

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